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Chris steps in it bigtime

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Re: Chris steps in it bigtime

Postby SuperLiger » Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:22 am

So? He did some comments... He apologized, so i don't see where the big deal. If the guy itself had a drink and a laugh with Jericho after that happened i don't see where the problem is.
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Re: Chris steps in it bigtime

Postby sexyjericho » Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:36 am

Poeple make to much out of everything today .Its just a reason to bitch nobody can say anything anymore .Chris was joking around and poeple need to get life anyway .Chris apologized and its reall y big deal .Chris shouldn't of had to apologized to anybody .Chris had a drink with the guy after. This pathic fools need to look at themselfs and not what somebody else says.
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Re: Chris steps in it bigtime

Postby SuperLiger » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:23 pm

For once i agree with you. A lot of people are too sensitive. They get offended even when Mcmahon made a similar comment... Not want to compare the two situations... But however Jericho was kidding with the guy and nothing else.
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Re: Chris steps in it bigtime

Postby austrian-wonder » Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:47 pm

SuperLiger wrote:For once i agree with you. A lot of people are too sensitive. They get offended even when Mcmahon made a similar comment... Not want to compare the two situations... But however Jericho was kidding with the guy and nothing else.

Yes that's all, I agree with you completely. I also got a friend on MySpace who was a security at the festival who told me that he was just joking and all. I don't understand why people always have to make an revolt about him. If Randy Orton almost knocks out a guy at a house show nobody says anything...
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Re: Chris steps in it bigtime

Postby Hayabusa X » Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:49 pm

Those sensitive pricks can all go **** off.
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Re: Chris steps in it bigtime

Postby SuperLiger » Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:57 pm

However it seems that a lot of people are on Jericho's side. I read a lot of comments pro Jericho.

However don't worry, WWE won't punish him if this is what you're thinking.

Guys if you have twitter show him some support because he seems a little upset. I know it won't be much for him but at least he will know that most of people are with him.
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Re: Chris steps in it bigtime

Postby Jess » Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:44 pm

Who calls gay people fags anymore anyway? He clearly wasn't making an offensive comment toward gay people with that.
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Re: Chris steps in it bigtime

Postby Youre All Hypocrites » Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:33 pm

Good stuff. I wish he hadn't apologized. Half the people posting comments on that TMZ page are fags (it's not a slur about homosexuals anymore 'cause South Park says so) and don't deserve any sort of validation. People who frequently comment on sites like that live to jump on anybody acting the same way normal non-racist people act in every day life, especially when it's a celebrity who they seemingly have no prior knowledge of. These guys are apparently so intelligent that they've deduced everything Jericho is based on this and the Vancouver incident. According to some of them, he's a homophobic hillbilly (LOL!) who beats women.

It's just hilarious 'cause you know if someone videotaped a particular minute and a half out of any of their lives, they'd easily get the same reactions from know-nothing fags on the Internet wishing they'd die and go to Hell and this or that. Well, this is given that anybody would give a damn about a video posted about them, which they wouldn't, but you get the point.

Title of the thread is misleading, by the way. I highly doubt this'll have any real impact on his career.
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Re: Chris steps in it bigtime

Postby mishymishy » Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:24 pm

I think it was inappropriate. Apologizing doesn't make it ok to act like a jerk. It's not a huge deal though.
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Re: Chris steps in it bigtime

Postby Y2Jen » Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:31 pm

No it's not the end of the world, but you know what? People do things like that every single day. There's only one difference.... if you're famous (or even just remotely well known) and you mess up or or do something unpopular just one time then you get called on it and get made out to look bad. Yes what he did wasn't nice, but no it wasn't a huge OMG thing. If anything CM Punk will use it to show people why not to drink..... but anyway! If he said he was sorry and people there brushed it off dirt on their shoulder then why not just move on?
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Re: Chris steps in it bigtime

Postby robandchrismom » Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:09 pm

amen y2jen.
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Re: Chris steps in it bigtime

Postby Steven Y2T Taylor » Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:00 am

I think those type of things Jericho said should mainly be saved for joking with his close friends, rather than making those comments in public. I wouldn't find those comments offensive at all, but when he is in the public spotlight, then I don't think it's too smart to say those type of things.
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Re: Chris steps in it bigtime

Postby Rainmaker » Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:22 am

Jesus Christ Superstar...people are waaaaaay too sensitive these days, but it's not necessarily surprising. Not long ago we were doing a translation and subtitling exercise at uni and someone was offended because we used the word 'black' to describe what happens to someone's lungs when they smoke, so of course we had to change it. I have to agree that saying that out in public is risky, though. But like some of you said, if he wasn't famous, we'd probably never know about it.
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Re: Chris steps in it bigtime

Postby Youre All Hypocrites » Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:47 pm

Oh my God... LOL!

GLAAD (The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation) has issued a statement responding to WWE star Chris Jericho's apology that he issued to the site stemming from the anti-gay remark he made recently at a film festival. GLAAD Chairman Jarrett Barrios issued the following statement to TMZ.com: "Just three months ago Chris Jericho's boss and WWE Chairman Vince McMahon acknowledged to GLAAD that words matter. There is no time, context or occasion in which it is acceptable to utter racist and anti-gay slurs. Jericho's hollow apology 'if (he) offended anyone' is a template used by many and is insincere and worn.


http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/article ... ment-89693


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Re: Chris steps in it bigtime

Postby Y2Jen » Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:27 pm

Oh geeeeeezzz peoples, and you know what? One thing IS different about Chris. He appologized! How many people do something like that nowerdays..... not many.
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Re: Chris steps in it bigtime

Postby mishymishy » Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:55 pm

Doesn't change the fact he said something that is hurtful to people.
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Re: Chris steps in it bigtime

Postby Youre All Hypocrites » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:07 pm

^ So, no one should ever apologize for anything they ever do because it doesn't "change" anything. Conversely, everyone should hold everything over everyone's head and give them no opportunity to redeem themselves ever. Apologies shouldn't exist, because everyone is better off being bitter about things that have been done to them and apathetic about things they have done to others. Then we can all sit around listening to Simple Plan and pondering why life is woe :(.

I would apologize for my condescending sarcasm, but it doesn't change anything.
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Re: Chris steps in it bigtime

Postby SuperLiger » Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:38 am

Youre All Hypocrites wrote:^ So, no one should ever apologize for anything they ever do because it doesn't "change" anything. Conversely, everyone should hold everything over everyone's head and give them no opportunity to redeem themselves ever. Apologies shouldn't exist, because everyone is better off being bitter about things that have been done to them and apathetic about things they have done to others. Then we can all sit around listening to Simple Plan and pondering why life is woe :(.

I would apologize for my condescending sarcasm, but it doesn't change anything.


You seem to be one of the few people that can really use the brain so i'm going to ask you that: do you think WWE will release a statement or something similar or they will let this thing die alone? Since Glaad and TMZ are not national television and neither some kind of assosiation who can give problems to WWE i guess they will let this thing die, since Jericho apologized.

However, Jericho said something wrong, he apologized. How can people tell that he was not sincere? They can read his mind or what.
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Re: Chris steps in it bigtime

Postby Youre All Hypocrites » Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:44 am

If they let the Vancouver incident go with no apology (not that they had any reason to apologize), I think it'll be the same deal here. The thing is that Jericho wasn't there as a WWE representative. I believe he was promoting his movie, which is his own endeavor separate from the company. He's also an actor/author/musician/TV personality (over-achieving son of a bitch) apart from being a professional wrestler, so WWE wouldn't really have reason to intervene. At most they might issue a statement saying that Jericho's comments were his own and not reflective of the company, but even that would surprise me. The TMZ-goers get off on bashing a celebrity at every small opening they receive, but I don't think the general public would make too much of a fuss over this.

Then again, I have no idea what the inner workings of WWE are really like and am taking a blind guess, but it would surprise me if anything really came out of this.

GLAAD's main gripe is that he repeatedly uses the word "fag," which is a part of every day vernacular whether they like it or not. It's just like calling someone "retarded" when they're acting stupid. You don't think "oh, this person is prejudice against the mentally challenged." It's a crude and profane way to call someone stupid, but real life is not PG-13. I have an autistic brother, so I think I can say that with some perspective. If you want to erase "fag" from people's daily conversations, then you also should make sure that no one ever jokes about obesity/"uglyness"/every single subject on Earth that's a sore spot for somebody.

But that's not what most people who complain want. They just want people to stop joking about subjects that hit close to home for them, and then they're fine with almost everything else. They're all... hypocrites (ba-zing). What's important in deeming whether or not a person is being hateful is the context of what they're saying.

Was this the best venue for that breed of humor? I don't know, I wasn't there to see the atmosphere of the event. But at most, the clip shows some sillyness and immaturity rather than hatefulness.
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Re: Chris steps in it bigtime

Postby SuperLiger » Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:15 am

I see we share the same kind of thought about this. I completely agree with the WWE part, since TMZ is not that respected by a lot of people
I know some people got offended but the atmosphere semed to be a joking one... So if he has apologized i don't see why they have to make a big deal about that... The only reason is wanting to have 5 minute of notoriety. From my experience this kind of assosiation try to make a big deal about everything and point their finger against every famous people who say a wrong word. There was a period in Italy where there was an assosiation of mothers that were against wrestling and every **** thing that happened for them was wrestling's fault. Even when two little kids fought at school it was wrestling's fault... And the kids maybe didn't even know what it was . It ended up that Wrestling was pulled out of free television. It's just about finding someone or something to which you can point your finger to, even if you end up going too far.
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Re: Chris steps in it bigtime

Postby Culver » Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:12 am

I'll use the same example I constantly throw out to my students in these situations:

had he said nigger or Uncle Tominstead of fag or Hadji would you dismiss it just as well?

It's been pretty effectively worked into our culture that the N-word is a big no-no, yet we're generally okay with all of these other slurs.

Watching the video, Jericho comes off as a bit ...immature I think, and generally not as well-spoken as he usually is outside of the ring (not just because of the slurs), so maybe it was just a bad vocabulary night for him. Nonetheless, he picked some bad words to use and I agree that a bit more meaningful of an apology would be nice to see.

The host of the event has even come out to say that he did find Jericho to be offensive, but at least he is having some good fun with the whole thing. Mr. Lobo challenges Jericho
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Re: Chris steps in it bigtime

Postby Y2Jen » Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:29 pm

mishymishy wrote:Doesn't change the fact he said something that is hurtful to people.

That's very true, it doesn't change it, but I guess an appology is still better than nothing at least.
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Re: Chris steps in it bigtime

Postby Marty » Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:03 am

Maaaaan, Mr. Lobo vs. Jericho is SO not going to be as good as Kauffman vs. Lawler.
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Re: Chris steps in it bigtime

Postby 1jericoholic » Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:42 pm

I have written a blog post about this in my bogspot. I think a mountain has been made out of a mole hill here. We all know Chris would not purposely offend anyone unless the offended him. Here is link a link to my blog. I'd like to know if anyone agreese or disagrees after reading it. http://genkidjericho.blogspot.com/2009/ ... rsial.html
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Re: Chris steps in it bigtime

Postby Death_By_Windex » Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:42 am

Did he really say Hadji?!?!. I love Johnny Quest!
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Re: Chris steps in it bigtime

Postby Steven Y2T Taylor » Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:59 am

1jericoholic wrote:We all know Chris would not purposely offend anyone unless the offended him.


No, you don't know that.
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Re: Chris steps in it bigtime

Postby 1jericoholic » Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:56 pm

Steven Y2T Taylor wrote:
1jericoholic wrote:We all know Chris would not purposely offend anyone unless the offended him.


No, you don't know that.
It is my opinion,however. I think most here would agree with that and it's okay if they don't. That is how I should have worded it just as I did in my blog. We all have our own view point none are right and none are wrong.
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Re: Chris steps in it bigtime

Postby mishymishy » Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:01 pm

Steven Y2T Taylor wrote:
1jericoholic wrote:We all know Chris would not purposely offend anyone unless the offended him.


No, you don't know that.

I was going to say this but I figured it would've been a lost cause. Interviews, publicity stunts, and fan signings aren't a true window to a person's character.
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Re: Chris steps in it bigtime

Postby Y2Jen » Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:51 pm

He may have thought it was funny (although wasn't he drunk) or thought the others would've thought it was silly, but as big as a Jericho fan as I am I didn't think any of the things he said were funny even if they were meant to be silly.
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Re: Chris steps in it bigtime

Postby *CharmedbyY2J* » Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:48 am

I personally found in inappropriate(sp?)...it's nothing to do with me being overly sensitive..I can see why some would find in offensive..he should know better than that...I'm glad he apologized,but tisk tisk Chris...love the guy,but I'm not defending that one...
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