6 TIME WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION

[SuperLiger]

Well Since Jericho was into the midcard for all 2009 it seems wuite obvious that they don't consider him as much as Orton... but right now i'm talking about another thing... Actually he is a midcarder

You really think Jericho could be champion if he didn't have to drop the title to Edge? That's the reason he won

Still waiting the answer for the other post

What makes you think Jericho was a mid-carder when he and Big Show were Unified TT champs? They were main eventers by far.

The fact that he lost cleanly to a lot of low/midcarders.


@Youre All Hypocrites : You're right this time, but that's not going to change facts in the long run. But seriously, come here and cheer for this... It's really childish

[Walls of Codebreaker]

Well Since Jericho was into the midcard for all 2009 it seems wuite obvious that they don't consider him as much as Orton... but right now i'm talking about another thing... Actually he is a midcarder

You really think Jericho could be champion if he didn't have to drop the title to Edge? That's the reason he won

Still waiting the answer for the other post

What makes you think Jericho was a mid-carder when he and Big Show were Unified TT champs? They were main eventers by far.

The fact that he lost cleanly to a lot of low/midcarders.

That's a stupid logic. He's a heel, he has to show the face they have a chance at an upcoming PPV match.
Given the fact that he is willing to work with mid-carder just show how great Chris really is.

Many main eventer have jobbed to low/midcarders...HHH, HBK, etc.
Daiverie holds a pinfall victory over Shawn Michaels, does that make Shawn a mid-carder?

[Jess]

No matter what he does some people will always consider him a midcarder, as unfortunate of an opinion it is. I've learned to live with this fact.

[SuperLiger]

That's a stupid logic. He's a heel, he has to show the face they have a chance at an upcoming PPV match.
Given the fact that he is willing to work with mid-carder just show how great Chris really is.

Many main eventer have jobbed to low/midcarders...HHH, HBK, etc.
Daiverie holds a pinfall victory over Shawn Michaels, does that make Shawn a mid-carder?

Daivai didn't have a CLEAN win over Micheals.
And i try to separate mark and smart view. Jericho is great because he accept to work with low/midcarders unlike others main eventers, no doubt about that, never said something different.

But fro a mark point of view this will not make him look as strong as HHH. You talk about heels having to job, but Punk never jobbed cleanly to Truth or JTG. He lost once to Truth but it was a fast count and then he had a lot of chances to get his revenge.
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[Steven Y2T Taylor]

Daivai didn't have a CLEAN win over Micheals.
And i try to separate mark and smart view. Jericho is great because he accept to work with low/midcarders unlike others main eventers, no doubt about that, never said something different.

But fro a mark point of view this will not make him look as strong as HHH. You talk about heels having to job, but Punk never jobbed cleanly to Truth or JTG. He lost once to Truth but it was a fast count and then he had a lot of chances to get his revenge.

Punk did lose to Benjamin. There was a slight distraction from Mysterio, but Benjamin pinned him clean with Paydirt.

I agree with you somewhat in that I don't think of Jericho in the same way as Cena, Triple H, Batista, Orton, Undertaker etc. I do think of him as being higher than midcard though. He's in a different position to almost everyone else, because he does main event, but then can easily drop down to the midcard to help elevate someone. It makes matches more interesting and keeps Jericho fresh, because you're never quite sure what the result will be. He still always gets strong reactions from the crowd, so they still see him as someone important, no matter what his role may be.

[SuperLiger]

Honestly i can't consider a distraction a clean win.

On the rest of the post i agree, maybe i can't express myself the right way, but it's what i was trying to say more or less.

But as far as i can respect him putting over young guys, i can't consider him a costant main eventer since he spends more time into the midcard than into the main event. That's why in my eyes he is an Uppercarder that can be used into the main event when it's needed.

[Steven Y2T Taylor]

Maybe not completely clean, but it's a very weak form of interference.

I understood what you were saying. I think you were just talking about something different than what other people in the thread were mainly talking about. You're from Portugal aren't you? If so, then your English is about 1000 times better than my Portuguese.

I think of him as a semi-main eventer.

[SuperLiger]

Maybe not completely clean, but it's a very weak form of interference.

I understood what you were saying. I think you were just talking about something different than what other people in the thread were mainly talking about. You're from Portugal aren't you? If so, then your English is about 1000 times better than my Portuguese.

I think of him as a semi-main eventer.

I'm from Italy.

That's what i said, part time main eventer.

[Steven Y2T Taylor]

Your English is 1000 times better than my Italian then.

[SuperLiger]

Your English is 1000 times better than my Italian then.

Well thanks. I've learned it from Wrestling the most. Italian commentators are not that good so i had to learn English to use original audio option.

[Steven Y2T Taylor]

I think i'd probably choose the Italian commentators over Matt Striker or Michael Cole. I used to really like Striker as a character when he was Wrestling, but he talks so much crap nowadays.

[SuperLiger]

I think i'd probably choose the Italian commentators over Matt Striker or Michael Cole. I used to really like Striker as a character when he was Wrestling, but he talks so much crap nowadays.

Trust me, they can't comment at all. One of them at Mania said he was happy that Shawn was gone, that he wasn't a good performer and that he wasn't a real man.

He hates Shawn because he cheers for Bret and he was able to tell that the Angle- HBK match at Wrestlemania 21 was a bad match.

[tyciol]

This thing with Edge and Jericho for the #1 contender's thing is stupid, it really is... how does Teddy Long get away with this?

I understand that there should be some kind of time limit on a rematch clause and that injury shouldn't be an excuse for it... but...

Batista lost is title AT Wrestlemania. Jericho lost his almost a week later. So, if anyone should be obligated to 'use it or lose it' for a rematch clause, it's Batista.

Yet Batista gets to prolong his rematch until the next PPV whereas since Jericho didn't want to have a rematch a week after the loss, it's up for grabs if Edge can beat him? How ridiculous is this?

Rematch clauses are being completely disrespected. First off: Sheamus never got his. For some reason Vince and Batista just gambled it away to Cena. That match never made any sense. Cena and Sheamus already had a feud so they should have fought to see who gets to cash in the rematch clause at Wrestlemania. Sheamus had first dibs. Even though HHH pinned him, technically Cena took the belt, so basically Sheamus if he won against Cena it would be like he retained the title and lost to Batista so then he gets Cena's rematch clause against Batista. Whereas if Cena beat Sheamus it would be as if he retained it in a rematch so then he gets his rematch.

But another thing... the Undertaker. He never got a rematch for the Heavyweight title. What should really happen is while Chris Jericho is recuperating from injuries, let Undertaker do his clause to get a shot at the title, and then whoever wins that, Jericho uses his clause to take them on.

However I expect just like after last year's WM the Taker's taking a month-long biker sabbatical so my guess is he'll probably come back after the whole Swagger/Edge/Jericho thing is sorted out to annihilate who's left. With the amount of time that takes though, the draft may have already happened so there's no telling.

But seriously... it makes zero sense to give Edge a chance at Jericho's clause whereas nobody gets a shot at Batista's despite him losing his title earlier. Is that McMahon/Long plotting at work?

[hitman89762000]

many lolz in this thread

[Payne]

y2j is the best in the world today do you understand what he says